Discussion:
Capitalism has destroyed the AmeriKKKan family
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V for Vendicar
2008-07-20 03:04:06 UTC
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The presumption is that wealth lowers birth rate.
It's more likely that slavery to Capitalism so impoverishes the lives
of
those enslaved that they have no time, money, or desire to raise
children.
Liberal TAX and SPEND policy, enslaves men.
"Work brings Freedom" - The perpetual lie of the Capitalist.
"Work brings Freedom" - Sign found at the entrance of many NAZI Death
Camps.
Slavery to Capitalism is independent of wealth.
Liberalism to Fascism.
Fascism is Corporatism, and RepubliKKKanism is Corporatism. Hence Fascism
is RepubliKKKanism.
Witness how AmeriKKKan Capitalism has destroyed the AmeriKKKan family
and
thereby destroyed AmeriKKKan society.
It's not earning a living that destroyed the Family,
No, it's not being able to earn a decent living without two incomes that
has destroyed the AmeriKKKan family, by necessitating that both husband and
wife work, with the result that the children are left to be raised by
themselves mostly, or by the street, but kept contained for 7 hours a day in
school. Should they decide to show up.

Capitalism has destroyed the AmeriKKKan family, and Destroyed AmeriKKKan
society.
charles q
2008-07-20 14:48:59 UTC
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On Jul 19, 8:04 pm, "V for Vendicar"
  The presumption is that wealth lowers birth rate.
  It's more likely that slavery to Capitalism so impoverishes the lives
of
those enslaved that they have no time, money, or desire to raise
children.
Liberal TAX and SPEND policy, enslaves men.
  "Work brings Freedom" - The perpetual lie of the Capitalist.
  "Work brings Freedom" - Sign found at the entrance of many NAZI Death
Camps.
  Slavery to Capitalism is independent of wealth.
Liberalism to Fascism.
  Fascism is Corporatism, and RepubliKKKanism is Corporatism.  Hence Fascism
is RepubliKKKanism.
  Witness how AmeriKKKan Capitalism has destroyed the AmeriKKKan family
and
thereby destroyed AmeriKKKan society.
It's not earning a living that destroyed the Family,
  No, it's not being able to earn a decent living without two incomes that
has destroyed the AmeriKKKan family, by necessitating that both husband and
wife work, with the result that the children are left to be raised by
themselves mostly, or by the street, but kept contained for 7 hours a day in
school.  Should they decide to show up.
  Capitalism has destroyed the AmeriKKKan family, and Destroyed AmeriKKKan
society.
The death of the KKK and any and all white extremest groups will
always be a welcome thing,by the way I am white also
unknown
2008-07-20 15:37:56 UTC
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On Jul 19, 8:04 pm, "V for Vendicar"
The death of the KKK and any and all white extremest groups will
always be a welcome thing,
by the way I am white also
"> by the way I am white also"

I'm sorry... I hope it all works out for you.
charles q
2008-07-20 18:10:59 UTC
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Post by unknown
On Jul 19, 8:04 pm, "V for Vendicar"
The death of the KKK and any and all white extremest groups will
always be a welcome thing,
by the way I am white also
"> by the way I am white also"
I'm sorry...  I hope it all works out for you.
It does,it works really well for me
Cultural Supremacist
2008-07-21 03:07:43 UTC
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In article
Post by charles q
Post by unknown
On Jul 19, 8:04 pm, "V for Vendicar"
The death of the KKK and any and all white extremest groups will
always be a welcome thing,
by the way I am white also
"> by the way I am white also"
I'm sorry...  I hope it all works out for you.
It does,it works really well for me
I believe he meant that you find your "whiteness".

CS
Starkiller
2008-07-21 03:42:28 UTC
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:07:43 -0400, Cultural Supremacist
Post by Cultural Supremacist
In article
Post by charles q
Post by unknown
On Jul 19, 8:04 pm, "V for Vendicar"
The death of the KKK and any and all white extremest groups will
always be a welcome thing,
by the way I am white also
"> by the way I am white also"
I'm sorry...  I hope it all works out for you.
It does,it works really well for me
I believe he meant that you find your "whiteness".
CS
So that must mean that V isn't white and is simply a racist.

Not surprising.


'A government big enough to give you everything you want, is
big enough to take away everything you have.'

"You cannot enrich the poor by impoverishing the rich."
unknown
2008-07-21 05:12:45 UTC
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Post by Cultural Supremacist
In article
Post by charles q
Post by unknown
On Jul 19, 8:04 pm, "V for Vendicar"
The death of the KKK and any and all white extremest groups will
always be a welcome thing,
by the way I am white also
"> by the way I am white also"
I'm sorry... I hope it all works out for you.
It does,it works really well for me
I believe he meant that you find your "whiteness".
CS
perceptive aren't we?
Cultural Supremacist
2008-07-21 05:17:32 UTC
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Post by unknown
Post by Cultural Supremacist
In article
Post by charles q
Post by unknown
On Jul 19, 8:04 pm, "V for Vendicar"
The death of the KKK and any and all white extremest groups will
always be a welcome thing,
by the way I am white also
"> by the way I am white also"
I'm sorry... I hope it all works out for you.
It does,it works really well for me
I believe he meant that you find your "whiteness".
CS
perceptive aren't we?
Sho nuff. :-)

CS
üDoug±Ç
2008-07-20 19:36:56 UTC
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"charles q" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:a4408f07-1b5d-45d6-a24a-***@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

The death of the KKK and any and all white extremest groups will
always be a welcome thing,by the way I am white also

*******************
What do you think of the Nation of Islam Charles?
charles q
2008-07-20 19:41:45 UTC
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Post by charles q
The death of the KKK and any and all white extremest groups will
always be a welcome thing,by the way I am white also
*******************
What do you think of the Nation of Islam Charles?
It's ok,it's no different than any other it has it'sfair share of
fanatics but then so does all other religous groups and ethnic
community's
unknown
2008-07-20 19:52:11 UTC
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Post by charles q
Post by charles q
The death of the KKK and any and all white extremest groups will
always be a welcome thing,by the way I am white also
*******************
What do you think of the Nation of Islam Charles?
It's ok,it's no different than any other it has it'sfair share of
fanatics but then so does all other religous groups and ethnic
community's
Not the religion of Islam.... He said the "Nation of Islam" Google
it, and learn who Louis Farrakhan is.


"Likening his predicament to that of Cuba’s Fidel Castro, Minister Louis
Farrakhan says he is facing some serious health challenges, causing him
to turn over administration of of the *Nation of Islam* to its executive
board and cancel all appointments and personal appearances until further
notice."
charles q
2008-07-22 22:01:13 UTC
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Post by charles q
Post by charles q
The death of the KKK and any and all white extremest groups will
always be a welcome thing,by the way I am white also
*******************
What do you think of the Nation of Islam Charles?
It's ok,it's no different than any other it has it'sfair share of
fanatics but then so does all other religous groups and ethnic
community's
Not the religion of Islam....   He said the "Nation of Islam"  Google
it, and learn who Louis Farrakhan is.
"Likening his predicament to that of Cuba’s Fidel Castro, Minister Louis
Farrakhan says he is facing some serious health challenges, causing him
to turn over administration of of the *Nation of Islam* to its executive
board and cancel all appointments and personal appearances until further
notice."
I'm sorry about that mistake,I gorgot all about the racist Farrakhan
trying to make a religion into a nation
Birdog
2008-07-21 16:26:24 UTC
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"charles q" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:a4408f07-1b5d-45d6-a24a-***@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 19, 8:04 pm, "V for Vendicar"
Post by V for Vendicar
The presumption is that wealth lowers birth rate.
It's more likely that slavery to Capitalism so impoverishes the lives
of
those enslaved that they have no time, money, or desire to raise
children.
Liberal TAX and SPEND policy, enslaves men.
"Work brings Freedom" - The perpetual lie of the Capitalist.
"Work brings Freedom" - Sign found at the entrance of many NAZI Death
Camps.
Slavery to Capitalism is independent of wealth.
Liberalism to Fascism.
Fascism is Corporatism, and RepubliKKKanism is Corporatism. Hence Fascism
is RepubliKKKanism.
Witness how AmeriKKKan Capitalism has destroyed the AmeriKKKan family
and
thereby destroyed AmeriKKKan society.
It's not earning a living that destroyed the Family,
No, it's not being able to earn a decent living without two incomes that
has destroyed the AmeriKKKan family, by necessitating that both husband and
wife work, with the result that the children are left to be raised by
themselves mostly, or by the street, but kept contained for 7 hours a day in
school. Should they decide to show up.
Capitalism has destroyed the AmeriKKKan family, and Destroyed AmeriKKKan
society.
The death of the KKK and any and all white extremest groups will
always be a welcome thing,by the way I am white also
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Methinks you are an albino!
charles q
2008-07-22 22:04:38 UTC
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On Jul 19, 8:04 pm, "V for Vendicar"
Post by V for Vendicar
The presumption is that wealth lowers birth rate.
It's more likely that slavery to Capitalism so impoverishes the lives
of
those enslaved that they have no time, money, or desire to raise
children.
Liberal TAX and SPEND policy, enslaves men.
"Work brings Freedom" - The perpetual lie of the Capitalist.
"Work brings Freedom" - Sign found at the entrance of many NAZI Death
Camps.
Slavery to Capitalism is independent of wealth.
Liberalism to Fascism.
Fascism is Corporatism, and RepubliKKKanism is Corporatism. Hence Fascism
is RepubliKKKanism.
Witness how AmeriKKKan Capitalism has destroyed the AmeriKKKan family
and
thereby destroyed AmeriKKKan society.
It's not earning a living that destroyed the Family,
No, it's not being able to earn a decent living without two incomes that
has destroyed the AmeriKKKan family, by necessitating that both husband and
wife work, with the result that the children are left to be raised by
themselves mostly, or by the street, but kept contained for 7 hours a day in
school. Should they decide to show up.
Capitalism has destroyed the AmeriKKKan family, and Destroyed AmeriKKKan
society.
The death of the KKK and any and all white extremest groups will
always be a welcome thing,by the way I am white also
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Methinks you are an albino!- Hide quoted text -
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No I just don't like white extremists and their little clubs,thats all
Cultural Supremacist
2008-07-21 03:02:40 UTC
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Post by V for Vendicar
The presumption is that wealth lowers birth rate.
It's more likely that slavery to Capitalism so impoverishes the lives
of
those enslaved that they have no time, money, or desire to raise
children.
Liberal TAX and SPEND policy, enslaves men.
"Work brings Freedom" - The perpetual lie of the Capitalist.
"Work brings Freedom" - Sign found at the entrance of many NAZI Death
Camps.
LOL, I like that comparison. And it's true in many ways.
Post by V for Vendicar
Slavery to Capitalism is independent of wealth.
Liberalism to Fascism.
Fascism is Corporatism, and RepubliKKKanism is Corporatism. Hence Fascism
is RepubliKKKanism.
Witness how AmeriKKKan Capitalism has destroyed the AmeriKKKan family
and
thereby destroyed AmeriKKKan society.
It's not earning a living that destroyed the Family,
No, it's not being able to earn a decent living without two incomes that
has destroyed the AmeriKKKan family, by necessitating that both husband and
wife work, with the result that the children are left to be raised by
themselves mostly, or by the street, but kept contained for 7 hours a day in
school. Should they decide to show up.
Capitalism has destroyed the AmeriKKKan family, and Destroyed AmeriKKKan
society.
I would add that it's laissez-faire capitalism that has done so much
damage to society. A state-directed capitalism, such as using tax breaks
as incentive to redirect business to a pro-nation and pro-family
philosophy, would go a long way to correcting many of our problems.

CS
Starkiller
2008-07-21 03:44:49 UTC
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:02:40 -0400, Cultural Supremacist
Post by Cultural Supremacist
Post by V for Vendicar
The presumption is that wealth lowers birth rate.
It's more likely that slavery to Capitalism so impoverishes the lives
of
those enslaved that they have no time, money, or desire to raise
children.
Liberal TAX and SPEND policy, enslaves men.
"Work brings Freedom" - The perpetual lie of the Capitalist.
"Work brings Freedom" - Sign found at the entrance of many NAZI Death
Camps.
LOL, I like that comparison. And it's true in many ways.
Of course you do. Work is indeed a "four letter word" to socialists.
Post by Cultural Supremacist
Post by V for Vendicar
Slavery to Capitalism is independent of wealth.
Liberalism to Fascism.
Fascism is Corporatism, and RepubliKKKanism is Corporatism. Hence Fascism
is RepubliKKKanism.
Witness how AmeriKKKan Capitalism has destroyed the AmeriKKKan family
and
thereby destroyed AmeriKKKan society.
It's not earning a living that destroyed the Family,
No, it's not being able to earn a decent living without two incomes that
has destroyed the AmeriKKKan family, by necessitating that both husband and
wife work, with the result that the children are left to be raised by
themselves mostly, or by the street, but kept contained for 7 hours a day in
school. Should they decide to show up.
Capitalism has destroyed the AmeriKKKan family, and Destroyed AmeriKKKan
society.
I would add that it's laissez-faire capitalism that has done so much
damage to society. A state-directed capitalism, such as using tax breaks
as incentive to redirect business to a pro-nation and pro-family
philosophy, would go a long way to correcting many of our problems.
CS
'A government big enough to give you everything you want, is
big enough to take away everything you have.'

"You cannot enrich the poor by impoverishing the rich."
Cultural Supremacist
2008-07-21 03:48:54 UTC
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Post by Starkiller
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:02:40 -0400, Cultural Supremacist
Post by Cultural Supremacist
Post by V for Vendicar
The presumption is that wealth lowers birth rate.
It's more likely that slavery to Capitalism so impoverishes the lives
of
those enslaved that they have no time, money, or desire to raise
children.
Liberal TAX and SPEND policy, enslaves men.
"Work brings Freedom" - The perpetual lie of the Capitalist.
"Work brings Freedom" - Sign found at the entrance of many NAZI Death
Camps.
LOL, I like that comparison. And it's true in many ways.
Of course you do. Work is indeed a "four letter word" to socialists.
Feel free to work yourself to death pursuing your capitalist dream.

CS
Post by Starkiller
Post by Cultural Supremacist
Post by V for Vendicar
Slavery to Capitalism is independent of wealth.
Liberalism to Fascism.
Fascism is Corporatism, and RepubliKKKanism is Corporatism. Hence Fascism
is RepubliKKKanism.
Witness how AmeriKKKan Capitalism has destroyed the AmeriKKKan family
and
thereby destroyed AmeriKKKan society.
It's not earning a living that destroyed the Family,
No, it's not being able to earn a decent living without two incomes that
has destroyed the AmeriKKKan family, by necessitating that both husband and
wife work, with the result that the children are left to be raised by
themselves mostly, or by the street, but kept contained for 7 hours a day in
school. Should they decide to show up.
Capitalism has destroyed the AmeriKKKan family, and Destroyed AmeriKKKan
society.
I would add that it's laissez-faire capitalism that has done so much
damage to society. A state-directed capitalism, such as using tax breaks
as incentive to redirect business to a pro-nation and pro-family
philosophy, would go a long way to correcting many of our problems.
CS
'A government big enough to give you everything you want, is
big enough to take away everything you have.'
"You cannot enrich the poor by impoverishing the rich."
Starkiller
2008-07-21 04:05:29 UTC
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:48:54 -0400, Cultural Supremacist
Post by Cultural Supremacist
Post by Starkiller
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:02:40 -0400, Cultural Supremacist
Post by Cultural Supremacist
Post by V for Vendicar
The presumption is that wealth lowers birth rate.
It's more likely that slavery to Capitalism so impoverishes the lives
of
those enslaved that they have no time, money, or desire to raise
children.
Liberal TAX and SPEND policy, enslaves men.
"Work brings Freedom" - The perpetual lie of the Capitalist.
"Work brings Freedom" - Sign found at the entrance of many NAZI Death
Camps.
LOL, I like that comparison. And it's true in many ways.
Of course you do. Work is indeed a "four letter word" to socialists.
Feel free to work yourself to death pursuing your capitalist dream.
CS
And you expect what? To live in a fantasy world where everyone sits
on their asses doing nothing while someone else produces everything
for them free of charge?
If it wasn't for someone else working you wouldn't have a PC to tap
away at making your little socialist rants would you? In fact there
would be a whole hell of a lot of your little life comforts that you'd
see disappear if it wasn't for someone else having a job.
You pricks are all the same. You love to reap the benefits of
capitalism all the while bitching about it out of the other side of
your mouth.
Post by Cultural Supremacist
Post by Starkiller
Post by Cultural Supremacist
Post by V for Vendicar
Slavery to Capitalism is independent of wealth.
Liberalism to Fascism.
Fascism is Corporatism, and RepubliKKKanism is Corporatism. Hence Fascism
is RepubliKKKanism.
Witness how AmeriKKKan Capitalism has destroyed the AmeriKKKan family
and
thereby destroyed AmeriKKKan society.
It's not earning a living that destroyed the Family,
No, it's not being able to earn a decent living without two incomes that
has destroyed the AmeriKKKan family, by necessitating that both husband and
wife work, with the result that the children are left to be raised by
themselves mostly, or by the street, but kept contained for 7 hours a day in
school. Should they decide to show up.
Capitalism has destroyed the AmeriKKKan family, and Destroyed AmeriKKKan
society.
I would add that it's laissez-faire capitalism that has done so much
damage to society. A state-directed capitalism, such as using tax breaks
as incentive to redirect business to a pro-nation and pro-family
philosophy, would go a long way to correcting many of our problems.
CS
'A government big enough to give you everything you want, is
big enough to take away everything you have.'
"You cannot enrich the poor by impoverishing the rich."
'A government big enough to give you everything you want, is
big enough to take away everything you have.'

"You cannot enrich the poor by impoverishing the rich."
Cultural Supremacist
2008-07-21 04:47:02 UTC
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Post by Starkiller
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:48:54 -0400, Cultural Supremacist
Post by Cultural Supremacist
Post by Starkiller
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:02:40 -0400, Cultural Supremacist
Post by Cultural Supremacist
Post by V for Vendicar
The presumption is that wealth lowers birth rate.
It's more likely that slavery to Capitalism so impoverishes the lives
of
those enslaved that they have no time, money, or desire to raise
children.
Liberal TAX and SPEND policy, enslaves men.
"Work brings Freedom" - The perpetual lie of the Capitalist.
"Work brings Freedom" - Sign found at the entrance of many NAZI Death
Camps.
LOL, I like that comparison. And it's true in many ways.
Of course you do. Work is indeed a "four letter word" to socialists.
Feel free to work yourself to death pursuing your capitalist dream.
CS
And you expect what? To live in a fantasy world where everyone sits
on their asses doing nothing while someone else produces everything
for them free of charge?
No, but I do not want to live like some third-world peasant who works 16
hours a day to barely eek out a living, which is what the globalists and
free trade/free markets capitalists have in mind for us all. They're
sending our jobs out of the country to slave wage nations, in case you
haven't noticed. We, Americans, worked for over a century to achieve
reasonable working conditions and your ready to toss them all out for
what? So you can compete with Chinese for wages to enable the owner
class to reap huge profits here? Are you a moron?
Post by Starkiller
If it wasn't for someone else working you wouldn't have a PC to tap
away at making your little socialist rants would you? In fact there
would be a whole hell of a lot of your little life comforts that you'd
see disappear if it wasn't for someone else having a job.
You pricks are all the same. You love to reap the benefits of
capitalism all the while bitching about it out of the other side of
your mouth.
Where do you get that we don't want to work? Hell, you can't survive in
this nation on minimum wage, and especially not on Chinese or Indian
wages. Are you just repeating some crap you've heard Rush Limbaugh say?

CS
Post by Starkiller
Post by Cultural Supremacist
Post by Starkiller
Post by Cultural Supremacist
Post by V for Vendicar
Slavery to Capitalism is independent of wealth.
Liberalism to Fascism.
Fascism is Corporatism, and RepubliKKKanism is Corporatism. Hence Fascism
is RepubliKKKanism.
Witness how AmeriKKKan Capitalism has destroyed the AmeriKKKan family
and
thereby destroyed AmeriKKKan society.
It's not earning a living that destroyed the Family,
No, it's not being able to earn a decent living without two incomes that
has destroyed the AmeriKKKan family, by necessitating that both husband and
wife work, with the result that the children are left to be raised by
themselves mostly, or by the street, but kept contained for 7 hours a
day
in
school. Should they decide to show up.
Capitalism has destroyed the AmeriKKKan family, and Destroyed AmeriKKKan
society.
I would add that it's laissez-faire capitalism that has done so much
damage to society. A state-directed capitalism, such as using tax breaks
as incentive to redirect business to a pro-nation and pro-family
philosophy, would go a long way to correcting many of our problems.
CS
'A government big enough to give you everything you want, is
big enough to take away everything you have.'
"You cannot enrich the poor by impoverishing the rich."
'A government big enough to give you everything you want, is
big enough to take away everything you have.'
"You cannot enrich the poor by impoverishing the rich."
Amy Blankenship
2008-07-21 11:55:14 UTC
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Post by Cultural Supremacist
Post by Starkiller
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:48:54 -0400, Cultural Supremacist
Post by Cultural Supremacist
Post by Starkiller
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:02:40 -0400, Cultural Supremacist
Post by charles q
"V for Vendicar"
Post by V for Vendicar
The presumption is that wealth lowers birth rate.
It's more likely that slavery to Capitalism so impoverishes
the
lives
of
those enslaved that they have no time, money, or desire to raise
children.
Liberal TAX and SPEND policy, enslaves men.
"Work brings Freedom" - The perpetual lie of the Capitalist.
"Work brings Freedom" - Sign found at the entrance of many NAZI Death
Camps.
LOL, I like that comparison. And it's true in many ways.
Of course you do. Work is indeed a "four letter word" to socialists.
Feel free to work yourself to death pursuing your capitalist dream.
CS
And you expect what? To live in a fantasy world where everyone sits
on their asses doing nothing while someone else produces everything
for them free of charge?
No, but I do not want to live like some third-world peasant who works 16
hours a day to barely eek out a living, which is what the globalists and
free trade/free markets capitalists have in mind for us all. They're
sending our jobs out of the country to slave wage nations, in case you
haven't noticed. We, Americans, worked for over a century to achieve
reasonable working conditions and your ready to toss them all out for
what? So you can compete with Chinese for wages to enable the owner
class to reap huge profits here? Are you a moron?
Post by Starkiller
If it wasn't for someone else working you wouldn't have a PC to tap
away at making your little socialist rants would you? In fact there
would be a whole hell of a lot of your little life comforts that you'd
see disappear if it wasn't for someone else having a job.
You pricks are all the same. You love to reap the benefits of
capitalism all the while bitching about it out of the other side of
your mouth.
Where do you get that we don't want to work? Hell, you can't survive in
this nation on minimum wage, and especially not on Chinese or Indian
wages. Are you just repeating some crap you've heard Rush Limbaugh say?
Even the people who are defined as below the poverty line today are far
richer than the average person was even 100 years ago. No, it's not a
perfect system, but there has NEVER been a perfect system. Hint: the
Cleavers were a _fictional_ family.
Governor Swill
2008-07-21 14:57:01 UTC
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Post by Amy Blankenship
Post by Cultural Supremacist
Where do you get that we don't want to work? Hell, you can't survive in
this nation on minimum wage, and especially not on Chinese or Indian
wages. Are you just repeating some crap you've heard Rush Limbaugh say?
Even the people who are defined as below the poverty line today are far
richer than the average person was even 100 years ago. No, it's not a
perfect system, but there has NEVER been a perfect system. Hint: the
Cleavers were a _fictional_ family.
The real pity is that this has to be pointed out. It should be common
knowledge.

Swill
--
No, his mind is not for rent
To any God or government.
Always hopeful, yet discontent,
He knows changes arent permanent,
But change is.
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
Cultural Supremacist
2008-07-21 20:32:13 UTC
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Post by Governor Swill
Post by Amy Blankenship
Post by Cultural Supremacist
Where do you get that we don't want to work? Hell, you can't survive in
this nation on minimum wage, and especially not on Chinese or Indian
wages. Are you just repeating some crap you've heard Rush Limbaugh say?
Even the people who are defined as below the poverty line today are far
richer than the average person was even 100 years ago. No, it's not a
perfect system, but there has NEVER been a perfect system. Hint: the
Cleavers were a _fictional_ family.
The real pity is that this has to be pointed out. It should be common
knowledge.
Swill
Apparently she enjoys her pain.

CS
Amy Blankenship
2008-07-22 01:18:40 UTC
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Post by Cultural Supremacist
Post by Governor Swill
Post by Amy Blankenship
Post by Cultural Supremacist
Where do you get that we don't want to work? Hell, you can't survive in
this nation on minimum wage, and especially not on Chinese or Indian
wages. Are you just repeating some crap you've heard Rush Limbaugh say?
Even the people who are defined as below the poverty line today are far
richer than the average person was even 100 years ago. No, it's not a
perfect system, but there has NEVER been a perfect system. Hint: the
Cleavers were a _fictional_ family.
The real pity is that this has to be pointed out. It should be common
knowledge.
Swill
Apparently she enjoys her pain.
I enjoy watching people go to great lengths to show what idiots they are.
Thank you :-)
charles q
2008-07-23 00:21:44 UTC
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On Jul 21, 6:18 pm, "Amy Blankenship"
Post by Amy Blankenship
Post by Cultural Supremacist
Post by Amy Blankenship
Post by Cultural Supremacist
Where do you get that we don't want to work? Hell, you can't survive in
this nation on minimum wage, and especially not on Chinese or Indian
wages. Are you just repeating some crap you've heard Rush Limbaugh say?
Even the people who are defined as below the poverty line today are far
richer than the average person was even 100 years ago.  No, it's not a
perfect system, but there has NEVER been a perfect system.  Hint: the
Cleavers were a _fictional_ family.
The real pity is that this has to be pointed out.  It should be common
knowledge.
Swill
Apparently she enjoys her pain.
I enjoy watching people go to great lengths to show what idiots they are.
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As do I
Cultural Supremacist
2008-07-21 20:30:11 UTC
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Post by Amy Blankenship
Post by Cultural Supremacist
Post by Starkiller
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:48:54 -0400, Cultural Supremacist
Post by Cultural Supremacist
Post by Starkiller
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:02:40 -0400, Cultural Supremacist
Post by charles q
"V for Vendicar"
Post by V for Vendicar
The presumption is that wealth lowers birth rate.
It's more likely that slavery to Capitalism so impoverishes
the
lives
of
those enslaved that they have no time, money, or desire to raise
children.
Liberal TAX and SPEND policy, enslaves men.
"Work brings Freedom" - The perpetual lie of the Capitalist.
"Work brings Freedom" - Sign found at the entrance of many NAZI Death
Camps.
LOL, I like that comparison. And it's true in many ways.
Of course you do. Work is indeed a "four letter word" to socialists.
Feel free to work yourself to death pursuing your capitalist dream.
CS
And you expect what? To live in a fantasy world where everyone sits
on their asses doing nothing while someone else produces everything
for them free of charge?
No, but I do not want to live like some third-world peasant who works 16
hours a day to barely eek out a living, which is what the globalists and
free trade/free markets capitalists have in mind for us all. They're
sending our jobs out of the country to slave wage nations, in case you
haven't noticed. We, Americans, worked for over a century to achieve
reasonable working conditions and your ready to toss them all out for
what? So you can compete with Chinese for wages to enable the owner
class to reap huge profits here? Are you a moron?
Post by Starkiller
If it wasn't for someone else working you wouldn't have a PC to tap
away at making your little socialist rants would you? In fact there
would be a whole hell of a lot of your little life comforts that you'd
see disappear if it wasn't for someone else having a job.
You pricks are all the same. You love to reap the benefits of
capitalism all the while bitching about it out of the other side of
your mouth.
Where do you get that we don't want to work? Hell, you can't survive in
this nation on minimum wage, and especially not on Chinese or Indian
wages. Are you just repeating some crap you've heard Rush Limbaugh say?
Even the people who are defined as below the poverty line today are far
richer than the average person was even 100 years ago.
How do you figure that?

Even if that is true, it is likely because we could afford to fund the
social welfare programs to keep the destitute from starving. When global
wages are equalized, as the internationalists seek, will we be able to
afford our current social insurance policies, or even worker benefits?
Hint: the Chinese don't have the same empathy that we have.

CS
Post by Amy Blankenship
No, it's not a
perfect system, but there has NEVER been a perfect system. Hint: the
Cleavers were a _fictional_ family.
Amy Blankenship
2008-07-22 01:17:55 UTC
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Post by Cultural Supremacist
Post by Amy Blankenship
Even the people who are defined as below the poverty line today are far
richer than the average person was even 100 years ago.
How do you figure that?
There are not a whole lot of deaths by starvation in the U.S. today. If you
do a search for "starvation" at the census bureau, you won't find any
statistics for deaths by starvation. Not that they don't occur, but clearly
they're not commonplace.

The vast majority of people below the poverty line have enough to eat most
of the time, a roof over their heads, usually one or more TV's, and much of
the time they will also have a car. This is wealth beyond the wildest
dreams of most people 100 years ago and the majority of people in a lot of
nations (notice for the comprehension impaired I did not say the majority of
nations).

Hope this clarifies;

Amy
charles q
2008-07-22 22:23:00 UTC
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On Jul 21, 6:17 pm, "Amy Blankenship"
Post by Cultural Supremacist
Post by Amy Blankenship
Even the people who are defined as below the poverty line today are far
richer than the average person was even 100 years ago.
How do you figure that?
There are not a whole lot of deaths by starvation in the U.S. today.  If you
do a search for "starvation" at the census bureau, you won't find any
statistics for deaths by starvation.  Not that they don't occur, but clearly
they're not commonplace.
The vast majority of people below the poverty line have enough to eat most
of the time, a roof over their heads, usually one or more TV's, and much of
the time they will also have a car.  This is wealth beyond the wildest
dreams of most people 100 years ago and the majority of people in a lot of
nations (notice for the comprehension impaired I did not say the majority of
nations).
Hope this clarifies;
Amy
There are so many people out of work in this country right now it's
pathetic.It's not because they don't want to work but all the major
industy's have moved to Mexico thanks to NAFTA.Now we have Obama who
has already been courting latin americian country's to start a FTA
with them.He says he wants to bring buisnesses back and put people
back to work but with another FTA that does not seem likely.People are
not going to work for 3rd and 4th world wages in this country and they
shouldn't.All the company's that jmped ship as soon as NAFTA came
online produce items at a tremeandous savings to theirselves,then
export them back here and charge top price for them all the while
reaping their fortunes.Had they stayed here we wouldn't have so many
people out of work
Amy Blankenship
2008-07-22 23:48:31 UTC
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"charles q" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:90ac054b-d948-48ee-a1ef-***@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 21, 6:17 pm, "Amy Blankenship"
Post by Cultural Supremacist
Post by Amy Blankenship
Even the people who are defined as below the poverty line today are far
richer than the average person was even 100 years ago.
How do you figure that?
There are not a whole lot of deaths by starvation in the U.S. today. If
you
do a search for "starvation" at the census bureau, you won't find any
statistics for deaths by starvation. Not that they don't occur, but
clearly
they're not commonplace.
The vast majority of people below the poverty line have enough to eat most
of the time, a roof over their heads, usually one or more TV's, and much of
the time they will also have a car. This is wealth beyond the wildest
dreams of most people 100 years ago and the majority of people in a lot of
nations (notice for the comprehension impaired I did not say the majority of
nations).
Hope this clarifies;
Amy
There are so many people out of work in this country right now it's
pathetic.It's not because they don't want to work but all the major
industy's have moved to Mexico thanks to NAFTA.Now we have Obama who
has already been courting latin americian country's to start a FTA
with them.He says he wants to bring buisnesses back and put people
back to work but with another FTA that does not seem likely.People are
not going to work for 3rd and 4th world wages in this country and they
shouldn't.All the company's that jmped ship as soon as NAFTA came
online produce items at a tremeandous savings to theirselves,then
export them back here and charge top price for them all the while
reaping their fortunes.Had they stayed here we wouldn't have so many
people out of work
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If you look at unemployment data historically, how does unemployment compare
today to, say, 100 years ago or 50 years ago? It's all very well to
complain about the current situation, but when you look at it with some kind
of historical/international perspective, you'll see we have it pretty well
right here, right now.
Day Brown
2008-07-27 04:03:47 UTC
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Part of the problem is that with earlier generations that had large
families, there was a clan safety net that knew every single individual,
and if need be, too them into their own homes rather than a homeless
shelter.

But with the onset of birth control, now the extended family was not
that many people, did not have that many resources, and could not, often
scattered like it was, organize a unified response.

I was born on a farm in 1939, in the upstairs hall cause there were so
many kin still living there who'd lost city jobs in the depression. My
grandpa just hooked up the team, plowed a few more acres of garden, and
everyone got to eat. No food stamps.

Today, we cant raise the wages to what the real income was when the
American nuclear family was more functional. Its a global market, and
investors will either move the jobs or fund competition driving anyone
who paid higher wages, but could not ask higher prices, out of business.

What we can do, is return to the clan system, extended family housing,
with the per capita carbon footprint low enuf that even low wages, at
3rd world levels, would still provide a comfortable life.

And while we see grown children move back in with parents, many now are
just too dysfunctional and neurotic for that to work for long. Some of
us in my neck of Ozark woods, who've been here for years and own real
estate outright, no mortgage, are now in negotiations with younger folks
for various co-housing plans and coop businesses.
Governor Swill
2008-07-28 03:27:59 UTC
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Post by Day Brown
Part of the problem is that with earlier generations that had large
families, there was a clan safety net that knew every single individual,
and if need be, too them into their own homes rather than a homeless
shelter.
This can be seen in poorer countries. Their higher birthrates are a
direct result of parents trying to have enough kids so that when they
get old, they'll be cared for.
Post by Day Brown
But with the onset of birth control, now the extended family was not
that many people, did not have that many resources, and could not, often
scattered like it was, organize a unified response.
It started even before that. Americans have been the most mobile
people on earth thanks to cross continental trains and covered wagons
and in the last century, the automobile. Such mobility can break down
families into smaller units. But the real enabler was Social
Security. It guaranteed some income to the elderly thereby reducing
their dependence on their children in their old age as well as
mitigating some of the responsibility.

When the Pill became widely available, adults could choose to have
fewer or no kids. As the mainstream in our nation came to have fewer
children, which are expensive to raise, they put that money into
retirement investment so they wouldn't *need* any kids in old age.

Individual liberty has also taken it's toll on the family unit.
Post by Day Brown
I was born on a farm in 1939, in the upstairs hall cause there were so
many kin still living there who'd lost city jobs in the depression. My
grandpa just hooked up the team, plowed a few more acres of garden, and
everyone got to eat. No food stamps.
An agrarian society really is simpler.
Post by Day Brown
Today, we cant raise the wages to what the real income was when the
American nuclear family was more functional. Its a global market, and
investors will either move the jobs or fund competition driving anyone
who paid higher wages, but could not ask higher prices, out of business.
Wages are depressed because there are so many more workers. Both
parents work, for example. A city man could work odd jobs and
gardening and if he was a smart businessman and a hard worker could
support a family and even buy a house. Today, lots of folks have
fewer kids but both parents work. More workers lowers wages. Lower
wages reduces prices so everybody has more stuff *if* they make the
costly investment in children. Economies of scale.
Post by Day Brown
What we can do, is return to the clan system, extended family housing,
with the per capita carbon footprint low enuf that even low wages, at
3rd world levels, would still provide a comfortable life.
Only reducing population density would accomplish that. That means a
mare agrarian society with stricter moral values and a return to
emphasis of human values over material ones. The problem with that is
that agrarian living is remarkably inefficient for large populations.
Which is cheaper, running power lines to 500 people in an apartment
building or running power lines to 500 people living on 100 farms? You
lose industrial revolution efficiency as well as reducing the quality
of life and increasing the use of resources. You don't even get as
much benefit out of economies of scale. In any case, the fashion of
individualism would fade as people submerged themselves into new
groups.
Post by Day Brown
And while we see grown children move back in with parents, many now are
just too dysfunctional and neurotic for that to work for long. Some of
us in my neck of Ozark woods, who've been here for years and own real
estate outright, no mortgage, are now in negotiations with younger folks
for various co-housing plans and coop businesses.
Interestingly enough, such efforts all occur in rural districts. How
would you accomplish the same social benefits in a densely populated
city?

Swill
--
No, his mind is not for rent
To any God or government.
Always hopeful, yet discontent,
He knows changes arent permanent,
But change is.
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