Post by Jack MayPost by Jack MayPost by Tom ShermanPost by Jack MayPost by ComandanteBananaIf I had a revolution --I do-- in one those Banana Republics out there
(hey, plenty of them, don't just think about America), I'd probably
take cue from Chavez --yes, he can be smart too-- and swap cars for
bikes. Good bikes for that matter.
In other words you like using food for bike fuel so you can kill off as
many third world people as possible.
And Mr. May has admitted to participating in unnecessary physical
activity for "exercise". We should be putting the owners of gyms, the
makers of "fitness equipment" and sports equipment and all who partake
in needless physical activity on trial for mass murder, no?
Staying health takes a lot less energy than fixing medical problems
How comes you oppose cycling as means of transport and as means of public
health improval so much, as it has been proven numerous times to increase
overall health in societies?
Post by Jack Mayis not remotely food to fuel conversion. That is one reason Kaiser is
the lowest cost medical and tends to have the best results. But you are
in the very stupid approach that the solution to all resource management
is conservation instead of technology development to expand the options
for being "green". As always your ignorance of almost everything in
society is extremely apparent.
Post by Tom ShermanWe will not mention the amount of potential food-stocks (corn [1] and
soy beans) being used to make motor fuel.
The work on biofuels is developing approaches that do not use food
sources for fuel. You are way out of touch with what is going on.
Maybe, in the future, somewhen. But right now, a lot - don't have the
percentage at hand - of the biofuel resources is standing in the way of
food resources.
Post by Jack MayI exercise to keep myself very health.
Shouldn't there be an adjective?
Post by Jack MayMy "gym" is an Olympic size trampoline in my back yard I have had for
years. I am the only person at Kaiser at least in Redwood city that has
ever taken their entire bank of test where they found no detectible
medical problems. Kaiser keeps a large computer database of all their
medical activities. They know what is happening and what has happened
there. The doctors have often made comments to others about my unique
health characteristics. My family history is that of a very long life.
I have a rare disease which is the result of a random mutation of
antibodies which would be impossible to prevent with exercise. I just
finished 10 days at Kaiser where they pumped blood cell out of my body (a
small amount at a time) through a machine that centrifuged it to separate
the antibodies by molecular weight and molecularly grab the offending
antibodies with albumen (blood product) and remove them from my body
where they are discarded. Could give me maybe as much as few years with
out the problem. The process can be repeated if the anti-bodies pop up
again.
The process is a low energy treatment.
By rare I mean in the SF Bay area there are two people at Stanford
Medical and me at Kaiser that have the disease. All three of us are
being treated with the machine which is also used to maintain suppression
of the offending anti-bodies for life.
OK you can now waste your time again to come up with more retarded
comments that technology laggards so often do because of their deep
inferiority complex.
What in particular has your personal medical story (no matter how
interesting it may be,
or how much empathy you deserve for it) to do with cycling as means of
transport,
its contribution to public health and the likes?
The writer was talking about the bike for extended transportation, not
exercise. A lot more food to energy wasted than just for exercise. Now
technology can mitigate those problems, but the human powered vehicle people
tend to hate technology advances and want to push for maximum wastefulness
of food to energy.
Hej Jack, did/do you evert think about - in a sense of reflecting - the
meaning what you are saying?
How comes that cycling for recreation uses less energy than cycling as a
mode of transport?
If your'e refferring to body energy used, than recreational uses at
least as much body energy. Presumably or very likely way much, if you
consider the higher speeds that sportive cyclers use. Hell of a
difference in riding 30 km/h or just 15 km/h on an average over lets say
4 to 5 hours.
If you consider the enrgy bound in the bike, I do not know, why for
example a roadbike should have higher production energie tied to it,
than some city bike? There might be some differences, as those high
class bikes have many exotic materials. But on the other hand high class
bikes have many more parts constructed not in far eastern asia and
therefore less transportation energy to the delivery area.
Post by Jack MayYou're calling everybody else here a technology laggard. But I do think,
your case must some of a social laggard.
I am at the opposite end of the curve with the innovators and early
adopters.
We are the most advanced people pushing the design of society to
improve, not pull it back into a long dead past. We are the people that
design the future that people tend to want as what is most desirable for
their lives. Its is more complex than that, but you must realize that a
lot of things go on in society that are not related to technology laggard
concepts of the world.
There's a saying in my country, that those cocks that crow the loudest,
are the worst with the hens.
Dont' people looking at a nuthouse - from the inside - quite ofteh share
similar views (reffering to we, when sharing personal views, accusing
all others of being the bad ones/stupid/without
understanding/agressive/etc. etc. etc. ?
Post by Jack MayYou really should try to understand how the culture works at different parts
of the curve rather than just making uneducated reformatting of my
statements.
Quite a good idea, why don't you start with it?
Post by Jack MayIn general the technology laggard segment of society has been show in
research to be the most socially probamatic segment.
Quote? Or just a product of your imagination?
Post by Jack MayThe laggards have been
found to often fail in many of the key social characteristics such as
connections with people, less than average intelligence, lower income, and
far fewer accomplishments in life.
Buahhaaa, what are those cheap implications you're transporting with
this crudely simplistic world view?
How about some source, that all those laggards notoriously annoying you
from the other end, might get a chance to read what they selves are up to?
Post by Jack MayThe other end of the curve with early adopters and innovators tend to have
the most successes in most of the key indicators of a healthy life with
networks of friends, higher intelligence, higher income, much more diverse
lives, and a richer cultural environment.
Yeah seems plainly logic, that higher intelligence correlates positively
with higher income and better health.
Does it also correlate with tolerance, empathy, humanism and the likes
positively?
But please have mercy with the scum and show me and all the other
alleged scum from the "other" end of that curve (bzw. is this in this
case a gaussian curve or something else?) those correlative contexts.
But nevertheless, all members of homo sapiens sapiens to be bound to
their natural boundaries, some more some less: I do not see a little bit
of hopping on a trampolin as the crest of human physical deployment.
Does my comparatively rather intense sporting life, including cycling as
a means of transport, also make me member of group laggard xyz (insert
field of personal favour here)?
Tadej
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"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary
depends upon his not understanding it."
<Upton Sinclair in The Jungle>
