Post by ***@yahoo.comOn Apr 23, 5:16 pm, "Mr.Cool [Defender of Cities]"
Post by Mr.Cool [Defender of Cities]On Apr 23, 5:43 am, "George Conklin"
Post by Pat"Mr.Cool [Defender of Cities]"
On Apr 21, 8:37 am, Pat
Post by PatHere's something new to argue about or as Mr.
Cool woud say "The
Cities, Why I hate them"
http://www.nypost.com/seven/04202007/news/regionalnews/8_fee_looms_fo...
And as for commuting? Do you not know that peopel
living in the
suburbs typically
have jobs in the inner city?\
This is another flat-out lie. In the New York
City market, 85% of all
commutes are suburb to suburb.
Georgie, we have been through this before, and you keep
repeating the
falsehood. The author of that has been proven wrong.
And you know
it.. There are two big train stations in Manhattan
with hundreds of
rush hour trains, there are PATH trains, and a
multitude of subway
lines that bring commuters in to Manhattan. Plus PA
Bus Term. Those
office blgs hold thousands and thousands of workers.
Again, quit your lying, quit using lying figures. You
are NOT doing
youself any good.
Randy
THANKYOU!
George did you no know that the population of people
living in
Chicago is about 3 million, but
during the working hours its around 5 Million? Thats 2
million people
going in and out of the City in one day.
Hmm I wonder were all of those 2 million people live?
There's a definite influx into the city during the
workday -- you can
see it on the roads. But there is also a definite suburb
to suburb
commute. NYC has something like 8 million people and there
are
probably another 8 million (just a guess) in the
surrounding areas.
Out of those 8 million in the outlying areas, some
percentage goes
into the city -- my guess is they tend to be white-collar and
relatively affluent. Another HUGE percentage stay within
their own
area to work -- probably relatively low income going and
can't afford
to commute any farther. Then there is a growing segment
that commute
between suburbs, say from upper Westchester to Yonkers and
such. I
suppose in theory that if they leave their own municipality
they are
communitng between suburbs. I have no proof, but I would
guess that
they are high tech and manufacturing that has left the city
and
probably not in the FIRE industries (ahhh, maybe real
estate).
I don't want to get into the whole New Urbanist thing, but
this why it
can't succeed. You can't control where people live and
work. Someone
moves into a community like that (and I use the word
"community"
loosely) and it is unlikely that their job will move with
them. So
now they are commuting out. So much for the concept.
If downtown become more congested, it is more of a reason for
companies to grow in the suburbs out away from the core.
This is esp
true of the growing companies that tend to be more high tech.
Lawyers, banking, etc. will never move, but for a lot of
companies it
doesn't matter where you are -- even India.
As I said, Georgie has a very long history of fabrication, etc.
To oversimplify, the problem is the costs of growth. I think
be wrong about the percentage that stays in their own area.
occupant vehicles.
We have a lot of freedom in the US. A person can live where they
govt and only govt can and will provide. Who pays those
is the question.