On Jul 16, 1:47 pm, "***@yahoo.com" <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 16, 12:23 pm, ***@milmac.com (Doug Miller) wrote:
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>
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> > In article <***@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, "***@yahoo.com" <***@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > >You remain a gun nut, I would not remain in such a dangerous area if
> > >you have to worry about home invaders AND wild dogs. I would not live
> > >in such a dangerous area, but like most gun nuts your income does not
> > >permit you to move to a safer area, so you remain wedded to your loved
> > >guns.
>
> > Actually, those incidents all occurred *before* I moved.
>
> > >I should see a therapist???
>
> > Yes, you should, because of your fixation on guns as sexual objects.
>
> > >Believe me, where I live home invasions of occupied dwellings are very
> > >unheard of
>
> > Liar. Your IP address shows Newark NJ USA.
>
> > >and if we need our local police they are there in 3-4
> > >minutes.
>
> > How long does it take for a housebreaker to shoot you?
>
> > >Even B & E's of homes when the occupants are away are
> > >realtively rare.
>
> > In Newark NJ? You're a liar.
>
> And that means I live there???? Please for a variety of reasons get
> your head out of your arse. I told you what the police and crime are
> like where I do live. As I told you, I would not live in a dangerous
> place. I don't go to Paradise on the Passaic very often, hardly at
> all.
>
> There are 565 other municipalities in NJ. I live in Union County.
>
> I will explain something to you. This will go 1000 miles over your gun
> loving head, but no matter. NJ has a very tough law re: possessing
> firearms. Are you with me so far?
>
> It is NOT impossible to obtain a firearm, but it makes ot more
> difficult and what you will find even more difficult to comprehend,
> more expensive. And the gun laws in towns like mine are very strictly
> enforced.
>
> IOW if some one suspicious gets stopped in a veh for a traffic offense
> in my town and a search is undertaken and a gun is found, the perp IS
> going to jail. If he has a felony conviction, he will be there for a
> very long time on a very high bail.
>
> That is what a police PRESENCE is for.
>
> Look up the crime rates in some of the towns in Union County.
>
> I will give you a hint, I DO NOT live in Elizabeth, Linden, Rahway, or
> Plainfield.
>
>
>
> > >For the thrid time, what I said your loved guns will likely be used
> > >for, remains very likely.
>
> > >Go clean you guns (pet) one more time. I am sure it is so enjoyable.
>
> > You really need to see a therapist for help with your sexual fixations.
>
> I don't own guns, I will not own guns. I prefer a professional police
> dept that has a PRESENCE, and am willing to pay for one.
>
> But I am willing to bet you are cleaning one or more of your guns all
> day long.
>
> And you love you guns more then you love your family.
>
> And you say I need therapy. As I said, please get you head out of
> your arse.
>
> Randy
>
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
>
> > It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.
>
> Naah, throw yourself holding all of your beloved guns into the harbor.
I think you both are a bit extreme.
There are very, very many people who own guns for recreational
purposes that you'd never know own a gun. They use the for target
practice and hunting but I doubt if they'd ever consider using them
for self-defense or such. They, like others, believe that the best
course of action is to call 911. They want to cops to handle it and
to keep out of harms way.
This group of people keep their guns appropriately locks up and
secured in locations away from children, strangers, and nosy
neighbors.
This the the VAST majority of owners. It is the person sitting across
the room from you, the person at church with you, the person you see
at the club. It is also the person who seldom gets into a gun debate.
The VAST majority of non-gun-owners are quite similar. They don't own
a gun because they don't need.want one, but they aren't going to go
off the handle and try to prevent someone else from owning one. They
recognize that the US is a big country and their is a significant
difference between people in NY or CA or TX or OK when it comes to
guns. Different strokes for different folks.
Finally, I believe almost everyone is in agreement -- no matter what
side of the debate that they are on -- the certain folks should not be
allowed to own/possess guns: people with a history of violence,
felons, domestic abusers, the mentally ill, etc.
Both of you are zealots and will not change anyone's mind --
especially each other. All of your "yelling and screaming" is not
going to get you anywhere.